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Camillo Felgen – Sag Warum
1982 · France · Columbia · Vinyl 7" 45 RPM Single Reissue
Price guide
Estimated market value via Discogs · as of Oct 18, 2026
- MMint
- $7.08
- NMNear Mint
- $6.34
- VG+Very Good Plus
- $4.85
- VGVery Good
- $3.35
- G+Good Plus
- $1.86
- GGood
- $1.12
- FFair
- $0.75
- PPoor
- $0.37
24 copies listed on Discogs from $1.
These are reference estimates from Discogs sold/asking data for this exact pressing, not offers and not a guaranteed price. Actual value depends on condition, completeness and current demand. Any active seller offers on this page are listed separately above.
Offers · 1
- €4ref VA-H6DXHMedia VG+ · Very Good Plus🇫🇷 Ships from France
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Pressing identification
Match these against your copy to confirm the exact pressing.
- Runout — side A
- C 008- 23.243 M A23 243 A 21 M3 338 431 1
- Runout — side B
- C 008- 23.243 M B23 243 B 21 M3 338 432 1
- Rights society
- SACEM SACD SDRM SGDL
- Price Code
- PM 102(Boxed)
- Manufactured By
- Pathé Marconi EMI
- Printed By
- Offset France
- Pressed By
- Pathé Marconi EMI, Chatou
Specifications
- Artist
- Camillo Felgen
- Genre
- Pop
- Style
- Ballad, Schlager
- Year
- 1982
- Label
- Columbia
- Catalog number
- 2C 008-23.243M
- Country
- France
Tracklist
- ASag Warum = Oh Why2:20
- BLe Silence = Il Silencio2:55
About this record
This 1982 French reissue of Camillo Felgen's Schlager ballad was pressed at Pathé Marconi EMI in Chatou, identifiable by the matrix runout C 008- 23.243 M and its companion B-side stamp. Twenty-four copies currently list for sale, with asking prices starting at $1, yet a Mint specimen commands $7.08 — a sevenfold gap that reflects how condition dominates the market for this obscure 7-inch single.
What drives its value
The price gradient on this Columbia reissue is steep and instructive. A Mint copy reaches $7.08, while Near Mint drops to $6.34; the VG+ tier sits at $4.85, and a VG example fetches $3.35.
Below that, playable but worn copies (G+ through Poor) fall to $1.86, $1.12, $0.75, and $0.37 respectively. With 24 copies currently for sale and a lowest asking price of $1, the market is soft — typical for a minor Schlager single with modest collector interest.
Community ownership stands at 55 have against 3 want, confirming this is a specialist's item rather than a sought reissue. The original French pressing from the same label and year would command a premium; this reissue holds value only if preserved in upper grades.
How to appraise this pressing
Verify the pressing by checking the label: Columbia, catalogue 2C 008-23.243M (or variant 2C008-23243M). The dead-wax runouts should read either C 008- 23.243 M A (Side A) or C 008- 23.243 M B (Side B), with corresponding machine codes 23 243 A 21 M3 338 431 1 and 23 243 B 21 M3 338 432 1.
All pressings bear the Pathé Marconi EMI plant stamp, often noting Chatou. The single has no barcode.
Grade by examining the vinyl surface under strong light: Mint means unplayed with no visible marks; NM allows only light sleeve handling; VG+ shows light surface noise on quiet passages; VG exhibits moderate groove wear and audible crackle. Below VG, playback degradation becomes significant.
The two-track format (ballad and Schlager on each side) and 45 RPM speed are standard for this release.
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Other pressings of this release
Different editions of the same album — pressing decides value.
Frequently asked
What is this record worth in Very Good Plus condition?
A VG+ copy is valued at $4.85 according to the price guide. This represents the sweet spot for collectors seeking playable, visually acceptable examples without paying for Mint preservation. At this grade, light surface noise appears only on quiet passages, and the sleeve shows minor wear.
How much more is a Mint copy worth than a VG example?
A Mint copy is priced at $7.08, while a VG copy is valued at $3.35. The difference reflects the rarity of unplayed stock and the collector premium for pristine condition on a minor reissue with modest demand.
How do I confirm this is the Pathé Marconi EMI pressing and not a counterfeit?
Check the dead-wax runout grooves under magnification or with a jeweler's loupe. Side A should read C 008- 23.243 M A followed by 23 243 A 21 M3 338 431 1; Side B reads C 008- 23.243 M B followed by 23 243 B 21 M3 338 432 1. The label must state Columbia and catalogue 2C 008-23.243M. All authentic pressings carry the Pathé Marconi EMI plant attribution, often with Chatou location noted.
Why is there such a wide price range from Mint down to Poor?
This Schlager single has limited collector demand (only 3 want it against 55 who own one), so condition becomes the primary value driver. Mint copies appeal to completists and archivists willing to pay for preservation; worn copies sell as cheap filler or for jukebox play. The $7.08 to $0.37 spread reflects this binary: either the buyer seeks a showpiece or a functional record.
Is this a first pressing or a reissue, and does it matter?
This is labeled a reissue, pressed in 1982 on Columbia France. An original pressing from Felgen's initial release would command a higher price; this reissue holds value only if graded high. The community rating of 3.55 out of 5 (from 11 votes) suggests modest appeal even among those who own it, reinforcing that rarity and condition, not historical significance, drive its market.