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Elton John – Sad Songs (Say So Much)
1984 · Germany · The Rocket Record Company · Vinyl 7" 45 RPM Single Stereo
Price guide
Estimated market value via Discogs · as of Aug 9, 2026
- MMint
- $24.82
- NMNear Mint
- $22.21
- VG+Very Good Plus
- $16.98
- VGVery Good
- $11.76
- G+Good Plus
- $6.53
- GGood
- $3.92
- FFair
- $2.61
- PPoor
- $1.31
106 copies listed on Discogs from $0.11.
These are reference estimates from Discogs sold/asking data for this exact pressing, not offers and not a guaranteed price. Actual value depends on condition, completeness and current demand. Any active seller offers on this page are listed separately above.
Offers · 1
- A$20ref VA-JAWE7Media NM · Near MintSleeve VG+🇦🇺 Ships from Australia — vinyl in NM condition cover is between VG+ to NM
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Pressing identification
Match these against your copy to confirm the exact pressing.
- Runout — side A
- 822 087 - 7 1 W = 2 320822 087 - 7 1 W 320 1 L822 087 - 7 1 W 320 F 1822 087 - 7 1 W 320 1 D822 087 - 7 1 W 320 1 C822 087 - 7 1 W = 2 320 P 1822 087 - 7 1 W = 2 320 B 1
- Runout — side B
- 822 087 -7 2 W 320822 087 - 7 2 W 320 S 1 A822 087 - 7 2 W 320 O 1822 087 - 7 2 W 320 D 1822 087 - 7 2 W 320 I 1822 087 - 7 2 W 320 1 A U822 087 - 7 2 W 320 1 H
- Barcode (Text)
- 0 42282 20877 4
- Barcode (Scanned)
- 042282208774
- Rights society
- GEMA
- Label Code
- LC 3053
- Price Code
- Q
- Record Company
- Phonogram GmbH
- Lacquer Cut At
- PRS Hannover
- Pressed By
- PRS Hannover
Specifications
- Artist
- Elton John
- Genre
- Rock
- Style
- Soft Rock
- Year
- 1984
- Label
- The Rocket Record Company
- Catalog number
- 822 087-7
- Country
- Germany
- Barcode
- 0 42282 20877 4
Tracklist
- ASad Songs (Say So Much)4:07
- BA Simple Man3:50
- Producer
- Chris Thomas
- Written-By
- Elton John
About this record
PRS Hannover pressed this 1984 German single for The Rocket Record Company, stamping the dead wax with matrix codes 822 087-7 1 W = 2 320 and 822 087-7 2 W 320 to distinguish it from other regional pressings. The release notes confirm West German manufacture under Phonogram GmbH Hamburg, making this a primary-market 45 rather than a later reissue.
With 106 copies currently for sale and a steep grade-dependent spread, condition alone determines whether a buyer pays 24.82 USD or 0.11 USD.
What drives its value
This seven-inch 45 commands a wide price range dictated almost entirely by physical state. A Mint copy trades at 24.82 USD, while Near Mint drops to 22.21 USD and VG+ settles at 16.98 USD; a VG pressing falls to 11.76 USD.
Below that, the curve accelerates downward through G+ (6.53 USD) to Poor (1.31 USD). The lowest asking price of 0.11 USD reflects heavily played or damaged stock.
With 1102 collectors holding a copy against only 21 seeking one, supply vastly outpaces demand, anchoring values well below catalog-era pricing. The German pressing plant origin and stereo format do not elevate rarity; this is a common soft-rock single whose value hinges on finding an unplayed or near-unplayed specimen.
How to appraise this pressing
Verify this pressing by the catalogue number 822 087-7 (or 822 087-7 Q variant) printed on the label and sleeve. The dead-wax runout will show one of four matrix strings: 822 087-7 1 W = 2 320, 822 087-7 2 W 320, 822 087-7 1 W 320 1 L, or 822 087-7 2 W 320 S 1 A, all attributable to PRS Hannover.
The label must read Rocket Record Company and carry the ℗ 1984 Happenstance Ltd. copyright and Phonogram GmbH Hamburg imprint. Look for the barcode on the back sleeve.
Grade by examining the vinyl surface under bright light: Mint means unplayed with no visible marks; Near Mint allows only light dust; VG+ shows light surface noise audible only on quiet passages; VG exhibits moderate noise throughout. Any skip, warp, or visible scratch lowers the grade one step.
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Listen
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Release notes
Labels: ℗ 1984 Happenstance Ltd. England Big Pig Music Made in West Germany
Herausgeber: Phonogram GmbH Hamburg Auch als MAXI-Version 822 087-1 Q erhältlich Printed in West-Germany
Notes sourced from the Discogs database.
Frequently asked
Is this the original 1984 pressing or a reissue?
This is the original 1984 pressing. The release notes state ℗ 1984 Happenstance Ltd. England and confirm manufacture in West Germany by Phonogram GmbH Hamburg. The PRS Hannover pressing plant and matrix codes are consistent with the first commercial release for the German market.
What is a VG+ copy worth?
According to the price guide, a VG+ graded copy is estimated at 16.98 USD. This represents light surface noise audible only on quiet passages and no visible defects to the naked eye. The estimate reflects market data as of the guide's last update.
Why is there such a big price drop between Mint and VG?
Mint (24.82 USD) and VG (11.76 USD) represent opposite ends of the preservation spectrum. Mint means unplayed and unmarked; VG means moderate surface noise throughout. Because 1102 collectors own this common single against only 21 wanting one, buyers will only pay a premium for pristine stock. Played copies flood the market and command minimal markup over cost.
How many copies of this pressing are currently for sale?
106 copies are listed for sale across major platforms. The lowest asking price is 0.11 USD, indicating that heavily worn or damaged stock is being cleared. Most active listings likely cluster in the VG to VG+ range, where the record is playable but shows its age.
What does the matrix code tell me about this pressing?
The matrix runout (e.g., 822 087-7 1 W = 2 320) confirms pressing at PRS Hannover and links the side to a specific stamper and lacquer cut. All four known variants (ending in 320, 320 1 L, or 320 S 1 A) originate from the same plant and 1984 manufacturing run. The code does not indicate rarity; it is a manufacturing reference used to track quality and identify defective batches.