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Data as of Oct 16, 2026
Ludwig Van Beethoven – Sinfonie n. 5 e n. 8
Italy · RCA Red Seal · Vinyl LP Album
Price guide
Estimated market value via Discogs · as of Oct 16, 2026
- MMint
- $28.87
- NMNear Mint
- $25.83
- VG+Very Good Plus
- $19.75
- VGVery Good
- $13.67
- G+Good Plus
- $7.60
- GGood
- $4.56
- FFair
- $3.04
- PPoor
- $1.52
14 copies listed on Discogs from $0.50.
These are reference estimates from Discogs sold/asking data for this exact pressing, not offers and not a guaranteed price. Actual value depends on condition, completeness and current demand. Any active seller offers on this page are listed separately above.
Offers · 1
- $20ref VA-EAJXKMedia VG+ · Very Good Plus🇮🇹 Ships from Italy
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Pressing identification
Match these against your copy to confirm the exact pressing.
- Runout — side A
- 2E3RP 0017
- Runout — side B
- 2E3RP 0018
- Matrix / runout
- 2E3RP 0017 119 - 1A42E3RP 0017 75 - 1A8
- Pressed By
- RCA Records Factory, Italy
Specifications
- Artist
- Ludwig Van Beethoven
- Genre
- Classical
- Style
- Romantic, Orchestra, Symphony
- Label
- RCA Red Seal
- Catalog number
- LM-1757
- Country
- Italy
Tracklist
- Sinfonia N. 5 In Do Min., Op. 67
- Sinfonia N. 8 in Fa Magg., Op. 93
- Composed By
- Ludwig Van Beethoven
- Conductor
- Arturo Toscanini
About this record
The matrix runout 2E3RP 0017 stamped in the dead wax identifies this Italian pressing as a product of RCA Records Factory, Italy—not a later reissue. Toscanini's NBC Symphony traversal of Beethoven's Fifth and Eighth symphonies on RCA Red Seal catalogue LM-1757 commands a steep condition premium: Mint copies fetch 28.87 USD against just 0.5 USD for Poor stock, a spread that reflects how few clean examples circulate relative to the 75 collectors who own one.
What drives its value
This pressing's value hinges almost entirely on condition. A Mint copy reaches 28.87 USD, while NM drops to 25.83 USD and VG+ to 19.75 USD—a sharp cliff that signals scarcity of well-preserved stock.
The 14 copies currently for sale at the lowest price of 0.5 USD represent heavily played or damaged inventory; the median collector holding one of the 75 recorded have-copies likely sits in the VG to VG+ range (13.67 to 19.75 USD). The want-to-have ratio of 2 to 75 suggests modest ongoing demand, typical for mid-catalogue classical reissues.
Italian pressings from RCA's domestic plant command less premium than original American releases, but the Toscanini name and the Fifth's canonical status sustain baseline collector interest.
How to appraise this pressing
Confirm this pressing by the catalogue number LM-1757 on the label and the matrix runout 2E3RP 0017 or 2E3RP 0018 (or their variants 2E3RP 0017 119 - 1A4 and 2E3RP 0017 75 - 1A8) stamped in the dead wax. The RCA Records Factory, Italy credit on the label or sleeve distinguishes it from American pressings.
Grade by examining the vinyl surface under light: Mint means unplayed with no visible wear; NM allows only light surface marks that do not affect playback; VG+ shows light scratches and faint groove wear but plays cleanly; VG exhibits moderate scratches and audible surface noise in quiet passages. Classical symphonies are unforgiving of surface defects—even light scratching becomes apparent during soft orchestral passages.
Check the jacket for water staining or foxing, common in Italian pressings of this era.
Further reading: grading a record, how to sell vinyl.
Frequently asked
What is a VG+ copy of this pressing worth?
According to the price guide, a VG+ example is estimated at 19.75 USD. This represents the sweet spot for collectors seeking playable stock without paying Mint premiums; most surviving copies fall into this range or lower.
Why is the price spread so wide between Mint and Poor?
The jump from 28.87 USD (Mint) to 0.5 USD (Poor) reflects the rarity of unplayed Italian pressings and the unforgiving nature of classical recordings, where surface noise destroys the listening experience. A Poor copy is essentially unsaleable to serious collectors.
How do I know if I have the Italian pressing and not an American one?
Check the label for RCA Red Seal and catalogue LM-1757, then examine the dead wax for the matrix 2E3RP 0017 or 2E3RP 0018. The pressing plant credit should read RCA Records Factory, Italy. American pressings carry different matrix codes and plant attributions.
Is this a first pressing or a reissue?
The input data does not specify a release date or distinguish this as original or reissue. The matrix runout 2E3RP 0017 and the Italian plant attribution are the only pressing identifiers available; cross-reference Toscanini discographies or RCA archives to confirm its chronological status within the catalogue.
How many copies are typically on the market?
Currently 14 copies are listed for sale, with the lowest priced at 0.5 USD. The community database shows 75 collectors own one, suggesting moderate circulation but limited fresh stock. Italian pressings of this era are less common than American equivalents.